Düsseldorf / Duesseldorf; Land Niedersachsen (British zone), #41/182 DPAC 182, DPACS 67, DPACS 41, DPACS 67/41; Jews, Belarus
Information: Dr. Elisabeth Scheeben Tel: 0211. 89 94 485
Archiv des Diakonischen
Werkes der Evangelischen Kirche im Rheinland
Dear Olga, ------ I have no idea when
the photo attached was taken but perhaps you or I hope you or a viewer
might be able to help.
Many thanks, Olga's comments: Those
from the Polish side of Ukrainian had to were a P; those from the Russian
side had to wear O (Ost - East).
Olga's notes: *"The Trident,
a 3-prong spear, has been the Ukrainian national emblem can be seen
on a coin dating to the reign of Volodymyr in the 10th century."...from The
Ukrainians in American by
Myron B Kuropas
On the left Slava Ukraine
(Glory to Ukraine) Sign on right can't read
first line Click to enlarge Thank you kindly for your help and the web page and links. Your notes I've attached a couple more photos, my Aunt seems to think these were I know she lived during the war near Köln as she spoke of bombing
and I have also attached the ID travel card which says they left Germany Many thanks again,
Email:
elisabeth.scheeben@stadt.duesseldorf.de
Landesarchiv NRW Hauptstaatsarchiv Düsseldorf
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40470 Düsseldorf
Phone: (0211) 6398-272
Fax: (0211) 6398-299
Your dpcamps page was interesting. Thank you. Dad came from Belarus (early in
the war) and was a military POW. As neither Polish, Belarus / Russian or Lithuanian
armies can tell me of him, I should like to find his record of capture in Germany
to establish whom he served and when and where he was captured. My dad was in
Dusseldorf for a time as well. Mum and dad married in Dusseldorf. Where in Germany
can I access or request this information, for as you say the Einwanderungszentrale
of Nazi Germany had information on all who came into their grasp. Yours truly, Terese
Umbras Fehlberg / Australia
7/18/2011 Hi Olga,
I was wondering if you could post this photo on your site. I'm currently
doing research into my family (grandmother and grandpops) as I'm
illustrating a book about my grandma's early life. She was deported to
Germany in 1940 where she worked as a housekeeper on a farm and then was
in many DP camps from 1945 until 1949 . They came to Melbourne,
Australia on the Nelly and settled there - I grew up in Melbourne but
currently live in Spain. I have the transcript of my Grandma's
experiences but now that she has passed I am trying to fill in many
gaps, especially about my grandpops who died many years before her.
someone who views your site could tell me what the text says and who
these gentlemen might be and what the group is representing? My Pops is
in the 2nd row from the top, 4th from the left wearing the bow tie -
with his hand on the below gentlemen's shoulder. I'm hoping this photo
could shed some more light on his history. I believe the second word on
the left plaque is "Ukraine" and the coat of arms [Ukrainian truzub
trident*] is there so perhaps
it's a political group. [Olga's comment: represents their solidarity with Ukraine]
I have also attached
some papers we had, I have found my grandma's birth
town in the Ukraine (Poland in 1924) but am unclear exactly if my Pops
was born in Berezhany / Brzezany, Ukraine, because he was in fact - we
believe - Ukrainian not Polish as the documents state. My grandmother
claimed fervently she was Ukrainian to the point where she once refused
to wear the Polish "P" badge during the war and told the SS to find
her
the Ukrainian badge! They could speak Polish however and these papers we
have are all written by Germans so the spellings and nationality were as
they decided or understood. There is however many Brzezina names in
Poland so I would love to hear your or anyone elses thoughts on the
issue. I do believe this photo seems to point to the fact he was proudly
Ukrainian.
I plan to give the
book I am creating to my family (my uncle and aunt
now living in Australia were both born in DP camps in Germany) and also
to my grandparents great grandchildren so that they will always know and
remember their heritage and what my grandparents went through to give
them such a fortunate life in Australia. I would be happy to send you a
pdf copy when finished if you are interested?
Miranda Warren mj@mirandajean.com
Ukraine was split in the first World
War - Poland getting the smaller half, Russia getting the bigger chunk. Poland
did a lot of ethnic cleansing to rid Ukrainians out of Poland and into Russia
(based on Yalta Agreement). It went very badly for the Ukrainians.
CERoda .Slava Can't read second line
Provid? Can't read second line
Click to enlarge
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to enlarge
Tishler Antoni Cap
Click to
enlarge Heiratsurkunde
- marriage certificate of Cap
Miranda's
grandfather circled.Write to Miranda if you recognize your family members
in this photo.
July 19, 2011 Hi Olga,
are excellent and already help enlighten us on our family history.
Having the opportunity to post this information is wonderful and I hope
the information can help more people too.
taken in Cologne. My grandparents definitely moved through at least 4
camps -
a transcript excerpt from my Grandmother - "I don’t why they
moved us,
they moved us all the time, they came with the truck, an American truck...
Dusseldorf,
Millhanruan [Mülheim an
der Ruhr]...moving all around....
in one room, you have one big room,
three or four families lived in that room.
...Chesa was born in Brauweiler and Stefan in Duisburg." They all
are very
close
in location - except Brauweiler.
air raids there. When she was pregnant with Chesa in 1945 she recalled
returning to her old "boss" to visit. She was given food, a
pram and
clean children's clothes and nappies. (She was very lucky to be cared
well for by her German household, her boss treated her like a daughter.)
She said you weren't supposed to bring anything back into the camps but
the guards at the gate didn't mind if you chatted with them and didn't
try to hide anything.
from Bad Salzuflen. I know the boat stopped in Naples, Italy, 21 August
and arrived in Melbourne, 15 Sep 1949. I have found 2 files within the
Australian National archives.
Miranda mj@mirandajean.com